Munson wrote:Will number 3 on the print(fan) give clearance for an XL frame?Also the front rod clamps is a great add on!!Also,could you possibly leave space for a rear endstops switch?It may be important for people like me that are not too familiar with ramps yet,until I figure out how to reverse the Y endstops settings.
KD6HQ wrote:I'm probably a little pre-mature on this but:
I have just ordered my first printer this past Monday the Printrbot Simple Makers Kit.
I don't even have the kit yet and I'm already interested in the Y axis upgrade.
So after some preliminary printing I plan to dive into the upgrade.
I do not have a feel about how much PLA the parts will need.
Could someone give me an idea please. I've already ordered on spool
but I do not want to run out before all the parts are done.
thanks
KD6HQ wrote:I'm probably a little pre-mature on this but:
I have just ordered my first printer this past Monday the Printrbot Simple Makers Kit.
I don't even have the kit yet and I'm already interested in the Y axis upgrade.
So after some preliminary printing I plan to dive into the upgrade.
I do not have a feel about how much PLA the parts will need.
Could someone give me an idea please. I've already ordered on spool
but I do not want to run out before all the parts are done.
thanks
Bellus wrote:Are any of the other fans truly nessecary? I know the hot end instructions says it needs constant airflow but what about the tip fan? I read somewhere it was mainly for bridging?
Bellus wrote:First let throw this out there, my wife and kids left home for two weeks so I am trying to keep my idle hands busy.
Ok so I printed the 1405 front mount and got a chance to install almost everything. I am kind of working my way backwards so to say.
I really don't want to lose the X portion just yet. Everything looks good on the extruder mount, but, I have a E3Dv5 hotend. So can't speak for the Ubis or v6. Unfortunately I only have one 40mm fan at the moment and one 30mm(the one that comes with the hot end) I elected to use the RH fan mount for the cat track for the moment to try and manage some wires. Haven't installed the probe either, mainly because I am being a chicken about the firmware portion.
Are any of the other fans truly nessecary? I know the hot end instructions says it needs constant airflow but what about the tip fan? I read somewhere it was mainly for bridging?
Skrotus wrote:The RRD Hexagon hotend that I'm using won't fit because it's too short and the cooling fins prevent it from getting through the mount and in to the extruder. I created an adadpter to hold it a bit lower but the hotend cooling shroud prevents me from mounting it. Would you mind creating a version without the hotend shroud? I need the space just around the 3 screws that secure the extruder.
This is the adapter http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:347953 I'll probably need to modify it anyway but I can't see a way to get around the shroud.
Bellus wrote:Are any of the other fans truly necessary? I know the hot end instructions says it needs constant airflow but what about the tip fan? I read somewhere it was mainly for bridging?
greenb wrote:This mod will work with the ubis, correct?
Jon Lawrence wrote:Update: I realized if I was to allow this version to be mounted on the Printrbot Makers YZ plate, I needed an rear end that would work as well. I edited the top post to include a rear end that will work on all versions, and also added some of the double precision parts.
You don't have to install this as a double precision. If you only want the normal operation, just leave out the reversing bearings and tension the belt as usual.
greenb wrote:where did you get those stabilizers? My printer is very tipsy.
Jon Lawrence wrote:Skrotus wrote:The RRD Hexagon hotend that I'm using won't fit because it's too short and the cooling fins prevent it from getting through the mount and in to the extruder. I created an adadpter to hold it a bit lower but the hotend cooling shroud prevents me from mounting it. Would you mind creating a version without the hotend shroud? I need the space just around the 3 screws that secure the extruder.
This is the adapter http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:347953 I'll probably need to modify it anyway but I can't see a way to get around the shroud.
Would you happen to have dimensions for the hexagon? Before creating too many derivatives, I would like to put it in the model and see if I can accommodate most hot ends in one or two versions.
greenb wrote:where did you get those stabilizers? My printer is very tipsy.
Munson wrote:Jon, I just came across one of your builds on thingiverse.Does this fit on the 1405? http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:344748/#comments
Skrotus wrote:... From nozzle tip to top the hotend is right at 55mm, the cooling fins start 14mm down preventing it from being fully mounted to the extruder through the mounting plate. The hexagonal cooling fins are ~18mm at their widest and 16.25 mm at narrowist
Like Radair I can clamp it in partially, but the lowest I've been able to get it is about 47mm from mounting plate to tip which is still a bit short and I'm not entirely convinced it's secure.
spitfirehauser wrote:... still have to figure out a better way to route my wiring from my ubis hot end but in all its a much cleaner and better setup compared to the original. ...
Defy wrote:So john does the new 1405 use the same y rod spacing as the stock yz carriage? IE can i just print the new extruder mount and rear. Then ise the stock yz carriage?
orangefurball wrote:Bellus wrote:First let throw this out there, my wife and kids left home for two weeks so I am trying to keep my idle hands busy.
Ok so I printed the 1405 front mount and got a chance to install almost everything. I am kind of working my way backwards so to say.
I really don't want to lose the X portion just yet. Everything looks good on the extruder mount, but, I have a E3Dv5 hotend. So can't speak for the Ubis or v6. Unfortunately I only have one 40mm fan at the moment and one 30mm(the one that comes with the hot end) I elected to use the RH fan mount for the cat track for the moment to try and manage some wires. Haven't installed the probe either, mainly because I am being a chicken about the firmware portion.
Are any of the other fans truly nessecary? I know the hot end instructions says it needs constant airflow but what about the tip fan? I read somewhere it was mainly for bridging?
the fan for the tip is definitely necessary. I have tested this by manually disabling my fan during a print and it didn't cone out well.
why not just install the 30mm fan for your hot end in the 40mm mount? if you have some cardboard you can make a quick and dirty 30mm to 40mm adapter so it can fit then you can print something when you're up and running.
not sure if the motor one is necessary, I actually have an extra fan attached to the extruder so the PLA doesn't get too soft and clog the extruder.
Jon Lawrence wrote:I have edited the top post to include a "1405AlExtruderFront-Short" version that should accomodate the E3Dv6 and Hexagon better. If you try it please let me know how well it works out.
Skrotus wrote:The hexagon hotend does now reach the print bed with a decent amount of the top going in to the extruder and I can make a simple spacer to guide filament in. The only real problem is that the hotend cooling shroud directs air at the top of the heating block. I'd still prefer something with the shroud removed entirely so I can fit my adapter in, but I can see why you don't want to be maintaining too many versions and I can always just use the pre-1405 front.
Jon Lawrence wrote:I have adjusted the short version to use a 30mm fan which should keep it off the heater cartridge. The reason I don't remove the fan shroud completely is it also provides support for the Aluminum extruder. Some people were having heat issues and sagging front ends on the previous version, so here I wanted to include some more support, and it just worked out well to also be fan duct.
Baedarlboo wrote:Have all the parts printed out, just waiting on my aluminum extruder kit to come in. Also trying to figure out if I should cut my 400mm rods to fit my 12"x9" aluminum bed or make something to adapt the bed without cutting the rods. I'd hate to cut up my rods and regret it later.
Jon Lawrence wrote:Baedarlboo wrote:Have all the parts printed out, just waiting on my aluminum extruder kit to come in. Also trying to figure out if I should cut my 400mm rods to fit my 12"x9" aluminum bed or make something to adapt the bed without cutting the rods. I'd hate to cut up my rods and regret it later.
Don't cut your rods, there will be an X axis upgrade for the 1405 before too long that will allow any length rod to be used.
Ari_Porad wrote:...How much longer do I need to make the rods than I actually want to be able to print?...
orangefurball wrote:
Does anyone else have a lopsided extruder? I can print but it can't be good. What do I do?
Skrotus wrote:orangefurball wrote:
Does anyone else have a lopsided extruder? I can print but it can't be good. What do I do?
It looks like it isn't screwed on securely
KD6HQ wrote:I just printed out my first modification part, 1405read-2014-06-23. The part looks ok, but since this is a new printer I'm checking a lot of things. The hole for the shaft appears to be 7.5mm, is this correct or is my printer a little off?
thanks
Munson wrote:Jon Lawrence,what cad program do you use?Also how long does it take for you to design a mod?I am always mesmerized by your work.I also want to say thank you for sharing your work with us !!!
Jon Lawrence wrote:2014-06-20: Added rear mount that will work with all versions.
mummson wrote:I'm confused... are you talking about the fan mount and if so will this work with the XL tower upgrade?
Jon Lawrence wrote:mummson wrote:I'm confused... are you talking about the fan mount and if so will this work with the XL tower upgrade?
That is the part in the back, opposite end of the extruder. No fan back there.
mummson wrote:Jon Lawrence wrote:mummson wrote:I'm confused... are you talking about the fan mount and if so will this work with the XL tower upgrade?
That is the part in the back, opposite end of the extruder. No fan back there.
So it wont fit with the XL tower?
Munson wrote:There is only a 17mm gap between the wall of the XL and the motor/extruder,from the looks of it from the birds eye view the fan will hit
Jon Lawrence wrote:I design in Solidworks.
jwiede wrote:Jon Lawrence wrote:I design in Solidworks.
Yep, nothing like having really nice (read as: expensive) CAD tools to use! Your designs typically have an aesthetic aspect, where most others are brute-force utilitarian. Have you tried other packages and did you find yourself more limited in them when it came to adding aesthetic curves, and so forth?
Thanks!
jwiede wrote:Yep, nothing like having really nice (read as: expensive) CAD tools to use! Your designs typically have an aesthetic aspect, where most others are brute-force utilitarian. Have you tried other packages and did you find yourself more limited in them when it came to adding aesthetic curves, and so forth?
Baedarlboo wrote:In the 1405 instructions it states to flip the Y axis plug on the board, and the end stop has moved. If you're assembling the 1405 upgrade with Jon's Y axis mod, do you keep the Y motor plug and end stop in the original configuration, or do you flip the plug and move the end stop to the front? I'm assuming they did this because moving to the belt it reversed the operation of the Y motor and axis movement...
Gajol wrote:...Will the front part of this fit on your "old" no sag mod ?
as i have the old 2014 model and not 1405 but i am using a auto bed probe so cant use the the "old" mod :/
vcolombo wrote:...I'm going to order some new rods for this upgrade and was wondering if there's a maximum length that you would recommend?...
vcolombo wrote:Thanks for the response, Jon!
Another question... I'm running into problems printing the extended Y plate. At the back of the print I'm hitting the Y stop and the back of the print is getting all mangled. Has anyone else run into this and, if so, have you managed to work around it somehow?
Thanks,
Vince
vcolombo wrote:...
Another question... I'm running into problems printing the extended Y plate. At the back of the print I'm hitting the Y stop and the back of the print is getting all mangled. Has anyone else run into this and, if so, have you managed to work around it somehow?
...
orangefurball wrote:Is your probe properly calibrated?
vcolombo wrote:Thanks for all the suggestions, but I think I found the issue. It seems the wire bundle was getting caught between they Y motor and the back of the Y carriage, so when the Y axis moved all the way forward for large prints that are nearly maxing out the print bed, it wasn't making it quite far enough and throwing everything off just slightly. I moved the wire bundle out of the way and I'm a couple layers into a print of the extended Y axis plate. I'm a bit concerned that the wire bundle is going to move as the Z axis goes up, but I'll have to keep an eye on things and move it out of the way again if it does. Once this print is finished I'll have to find a way to make sure that can't happen again.
Thanks again,
Vince
mummson wrote:About the fans, do the extra fans get power from the psu or is it ok to daisy chain the fans to the PBboard?
orangefurball wrote:mummson wrote:About the fans, do the extra fans get power from the psu or is it ok to daisy chain the fans to the PBboard?
I would wire it to the PSU, the the board will probably burn out if you try to run too many.
Alternatively you can wire the red wire of the fan to the rest wire of a USB port and the black to the black, then use a USB wall wart (the brick that comes with call phones and tablets) and you can run a fan off of the USB port.
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