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Printrbot probe

Postby killbox » 2014-Apr-Thu-20-Apr

So I saw that Printrbot has released a leveling probe, and I was wondering since it requires a metal bed how is one suppose to print on glass using this? is it powerfully enough to read though the glass? and I guess it's suppose to read off the heat bed?
I saw that they were sold out so I'm assuming that people have brought them. Anyone testing them right now?
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Re: Printrbot probe

Postby takingblame » 2014-Apr-Thu-23-Apr

The item description doesn't specify what type of sensor it is. I am pretty sure it is an electromagnetic sensor. Using a magnetic field to detect when other metal items are close, hence why it will work only with metal beds. Glass has very little metal in it. Actually more around .1 percent. The sensor would not be able to detect the small amount of metal in the glass bed. If you are adamant about printing on glass, you could use a mechanical switch. Similar to the end stop switches on your printr.
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Re: Printrbot probe

Postby thawkins » 2014-Apr-Fri-00-Apr

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Re: Printrbot probe

Postby vinny1575 » 2014-Apr-Fri-06-Apr

It specifies that its an inductive sensor (metal only) so the only way that it would work would be if it had a range large enough to read through the glass. So say you had 5mm thick glass and the sensor was 10mm then it should work. I wonder if there are any electronics guys here who could confirm this?
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Re: Printrbot probe

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Re: Printrbot probe

Postby thawkins » 2014-Apr-Sat-01-Apr

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Re: Printrbot probe

Postby sarahspins » 2014-Apr-Sat-02-Apr

Wow, considering the cost of the molex connectors a DIY solution seems like a no brainer!
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Re: Printrbot probe

Postby EddB » 2014-Apr-Sat-02-Apr

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Re: Printrbot probe

Postby EddB » 2014-Apr-Sat-21-Apr

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Re: Printrbot probe

Postby thawkins » 2014-Apr-Sun-01-Apr

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Re: Printrbot probe

Postby EddB » 2014-Apr-Sun-15-Apr

I got my sensor yeaterday. Love Amazon's saturday fedex service!
As you mentioned in your video, I am very surprised by the weight of the cylindrical sensor. It's like add another extruder to the end. I think I am going to order the little plastic fostek as well.
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Re: Printrbot probe

Postby EddB » 2014-Apr-Mon-22-Apr

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Postby thawkins » 2014-Apr-Tue-00-Apr

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Re: Printrbot probe

Postby EddB » 2014-Apr-Thu-22-Apr

THawkins,
Have you taken a look at the datasheet for these sensors?
www.fotek.com.tw/pdf/etc_221.pdf

Page 7 shows what I mentioned earlier. That the max distance is based on the material you are using to trigger it. The max distance of one is 4mm, but that is based on 1mm thick steel equal width to your detecting distance (probe 4mm then steel needs to be 1mm tall and 4x4mm wide for max distance) Other materials are less sensitive/distance detection.

Steel is the max 1.0 x 4mm
Chrome and nickle are 0.9 x 4mm
Brass is 0.5 x 4mm
Aluminum and copper are only 0.4 x 4mm

Interesting since you may have steel or chrome screws/hardware under the copper which may give a false reading before the copper is in range. The chrome hardened rods may trigger it before aluminum or copper sitting on top of the bed? I don't thinks so with 4mm range, but a better sensor capable of 7-10mm distance might.
Haven't had a chance to work with mine yet, but they are going to be very interesting to experiment with.
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Re: Printrbot probe

Postby thawkins » 2014-Apr-Thu-23-Apr

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Re: Printrbot probe

Postby EddB » 2014-Apr-Sat-01-Apr

I was researching inductive sensors when I read about capacitive sensors. They can detect almost any surface (i.e. Non metalic). And they use a potentiometer to adjust the distance. Usually less than 30mm. I am wondering why no one has mentioned them for bed leveling (level one of their uses it is ideal for). Some of the surfaces they can detect are glass, wood, and paper, plastic, ceramic and even liquids.
The article I read is http://sensortech.wordpress.com/2014/03 ... ty-sensor/
The site covers all types of sensors used in manufacturing equipment. I might just pick up a couple of them to play with as well (if they are priced like inductive sensors.) it would be perfect if it could level using glass!
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Re: Printrbot probe

Postby thawkins » 2014-Apr-Sat-03-Apr

Arrrrrggggghhhhhhhhh

I was just about to do a load of test prints with my nice new autoleveled bed, and my heatbed stopped working, all the moving of the bed, and fixing and unfixing it and one of the legs has fallen off the thermistor.

Fortunatly I have some spares, but its a pain as I will have to dimantle the whole bed again,
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Re: Printrbot probe

Postby jwiede » 2014-Apr-Sun-15-Apr

So more back to the printrbot probe, as opposed to others, the item description mentions printable fixtures for attaching to Simple 2014/Makers being available, but I cannot seem to find them anywhere in the support section.

Does anyone know where the printable attachment fixtures for the printrbot probes are located on their site?
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