smashley wrote:Apparently the 999 USD price tag is only introductory, going up to 1299 after xmas.. converted to Canadian that's nearly 2000 once taxes and duty factor in. That is an insane price for what you get. Not even a heated bed? Where did that number even come from? My 2015 Simple metal with Matrix Precision XYZ upgrade + heated bed + raspberry pi with octoprint still comes in at several hundred less, granted no wifi or touch screen that I'd never use. Seems to me Mr Drumm has lost touch a bit. There are many other options out there with better features for about a quarter the price.
krog7d7 wrote:I purchased one before the price went up.
My thinking/reasonings, I've always bought printrbot. I have the old Plus 2.0 with many mods on it....now basically a frakenprinter. I also have a makers kit simple that does pretty well.
I saw this new one at maker faire, looked solid.
I've been playing with it for the past few days, getting mostly successful prints with PLA now, haven't tried other materials yet.
I should have read more about it, as the ONLY way to move things to the printer is through their cloud service. This is a HUGE pain in the ass, but for what they are trying to accomplish, I get it. It's truly a very simple machine "when" you have very simple files and expectations. Send a model to the cloud, send the model to the print, hit print, it works.
However, I have a lot of models that aren't oriented in the best fashion --> no way to rotate them correctly.
Can't use any other software (simplify3d, rep, cura, etc.) to control the machine. All done through the cloud. HUGE bummer.
However again, they are supposed to be working on a version of cura that can hook directly to the printer and bypass cloud controls.
With only a few days using the new machine, I'm pretty impressed, but will hold my ultimate judgement when I'm able to control it with software of my choosing and see how it compares to my frankenprinter.
Thanks,
Ken
New Passion wrote:I totally agree musk, In my opinion 3d printers are not plug and play, you have to be willing to tinker and learn, and that is what attracted me to Printrbot. I was also just on the Printrbot website and it looks like they are no longer going to sell the older Simple Metal, they provide a link for Amazon, https://printrbot.com/printrbot-simple-model-1403/ . The Play looks like it is sold at MicroCenter, https://printrbot.com/printrbot-play/ . and the Plus is also an Amazon link, https://printrbot.com/printrbot-plus/ . I would hope the New Simple Metal is not going to be our only choice if we stay with Printrbot.
musk wrote:I imagine that this is just a case of the hardware being a few months ahead of the software.
Mooselake wrote:musk wrote:I imagine that this is just a case of the hardware being a few months ahead of the software.
Since the software's required to use the hardware it means it was released before it was ready, never a good thing. It's unreasonable to expect customers to pay a stiff premium to be beta testers of stuff that doesn't work. It's even worse if you're pitching it at the printer-as-appliance crowd who won't have the skills or background to figure out what's happening. It's not a video game where the customers just expect it to ship broken and get fixed later<ducks>
Kirk
musk wrote:
1. USB printing: You can currently print via USB on a mac but not a PC. PC compatibility has got to be imminent, so this will hopefully be resolved soon.
2. Cura is the only slicer: Brook just released a video showing that you can now slice using other slicers and upload that gcode file to the cloud. This is a must-have for me, as I'm an S3D user.
3. SD printing / local flash memory printing: Does the machine have an SD card or can the entire gcode be uploaded instead of streaming the data? Streaming over USB is not something I want to do for a long print since it's inherently unreliable.
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